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Ember-1 is Kimi K3 post-trained for 40% more concise reasoning

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Ember-1, a model built on Kimi K3 through post-training, reportedly reasons 40% more concisely while keeping the same quality and running 40% faster and cheaper. Sebastian Raschka cites it as an example that starting from an existing frontier LLM and investing the budget in post-training is an effective development path.

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A little Ember-1 tl;dr.

Seems like a great model!

(Was recently asked on a podcast, given $ xx million, what's the best way to develop a frontier LLM today? My recommendation was: start with an existing one and spend that budget on post-training. Great example here.)

Dmytro Dzhulgakov@dzhulgakov
Ember-1 is hot on HN, our research team cooked it’s Kimi K3 post trained to be 40% more concise in reasoning same quality, 40% faster and cheaper
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