Epoch AI's JS Denain Debates RSI, US-China Gap, and AI Jaggedness

JS Denain of Epoch AI discusses recursive self-improvement, arguing public evidence does not yet show a software intelligence explosion, though OpenAI's reported 2X monthly growth in researchers' Codex spending suggests substantial value.

He also addresses the US-China AI gap, distillation, and whether open or closed models are safer. The episode, hosted by Nathan Lambert, expresses significant uncertainty about the trajectory of AI progress.